Interview by Stephan Bodian

This is a very early interview with Arne Naess, published in 1982. It was influential in introducing the concept of “deep ecology” to an American audience. Stephan Bodian, a teacher of spiritual awakening in the Zen tradition, Dzogchen, and Avaita Vedanta, encourages Naess to speak about a shift that he would welcome in society. Ideally, in his view, people should no longer let themselves be dominated by means, instruments, and gadgets, but would start to reconsider instead what they really need for a rich and fulfilling life.